Designer Nate Berkus believes he is still unlearning being in the closet.

Speaking to his former mentor, Oprah Winfrey, on cabler OWN's Super Soul Sunday, Berkus, 41, explained that he was pretty good at hiding his sexuality.

“What happens is when you are a kid and you know that you're gay you develop a skill set that makes you dishonest,” Berkus said.

“You have to lie. You feel that you have to lie so that you're not cast out, so that your parents don't cast you out. And the things that you learn to do socially, with friends on the school bus, in class, in school, at recess, with your family, how you have to pretend that you like a girl or that you're dating someone.”

“I was 8 years old, 9 years old, when I became conscious of the fact that I was gay. And I had to develop a whole skill set around hiding that.”

“And it's taken me almost all of my adult life to rid myself of those. 'Cause I got pretty good at it.” (The video is embedded on this page. Visit our video library for more videos.)

(Related: Nate Berkus told dad that being gay was not a choice he would have made.)