Pastor Patrick Wooden and anti-gay rights activist Peter LaBarbera are certain that nobody wants their kids to be gay.

Wooden, a pastor at Raleigh's Upper Room Church, appeared Wednesday on LaBarbera's Americans for Truth Hour radio show, media watchdog reported.

A strong supporter of North Carolina's gay marriage ban, Amendment One, Wooden predicted that young people who support marriage equality will change their minds when they become parents.

“Young people grow up and it's amazing what happens when you become a mom or a dad yourself. It's amazing what happens when, all of a sudden now you are entrusted with a young life and that kid looks just like you and all of a sudden now it's your little boy or your little girl. No one wants their son to be a homosexual. No one wants their daughter to be a homosexual,” Wooden said.

LaBarbera agreed: “The liberals are now saying, they are going around saying how happy they would be if their son came home, or their daughter, and said 'I'm gay' And it's almost like they are arguing against nature that they are trying to persuade themselves because honestly I don't think many would be happy, and it's not something to be happy about to know that your son or daughter is entering an aberrant and immoral lifestyle. And yet, that's what they keep saying.”

“Well, they're saying that be we know that's not true. No one, no one would want their child – even the homosexual father doesn't want his son to be homosexual; the lesbian mother does not want her daughter to be lesbian,” Wooden added.

Wooden has previously claimed that gay men shove cellphones up their anuses and that sodomy is okay for heterosexual married couples.