Bryan Fischer of the Christian conservative American Family Association (AFA) believes gay marriage advocates won 9 states and the District of Columbia by wearing down opponents.

In an interview with David Pakman, Fischer, who recently described CNN as the “gay Gestapo,” was rickrolled, the practice of tricking a person into mentioning lyrics from Ricky Astley's 80's hit single Never Gonna Give You Up.

“Here's the thing David, when it comes to these culture wars and the battle over social values, one of the reasons that the homosexual lobby makes progress is they never give up,Fischer said. “They're relentless, they're determined, they have resolve. And eventually in some cases are able to wear down the opposition.”

“So you guys won't give up eventually?” Pakman asked. “How many states will it take for you to give this issue up, Bryan?”

“We're never going to give up. We'll never, ever give up on this, David.”

But if you're also never going to give up, why have you lost 9 states?”

Well because they wear down the opposition. Eventually people just get tired and they give up and they give in,” Fischer said.

For the record, Pakman beat Fischer in mentions with eight “give ups” to Fischer's 6. (The video is embedded on this page. Visit our video library for more videos.)